thoughts on Bleach chapter 239

[incandescens]

Note on Bleach chapter 239, because I am cynical, and want to have this recorded here in case my cynicism is accurate.


Urahara's being devious again. He wants to get into Hueco Mundo and do stuff. A big whacking distraction is useful. Ichigo, Ishida, and Chad will make a lovely distraction. Shame if they get killed. Ah well.

Also, if Urahara is faced with the choice of "live Orihime in Aizen's hands" and "dead Orihime" -- sorry, Orihime. Greater good, etc.

Comments

[luminamon.livejournal.com]

You would think that Ichigo learned after the whole soul-society-hougyoku thing. However, being teen and male, of course he would dive right in and trust the manipulative bastard that did it in the first place.

I love how everyone really assumes that Uarahara is 100% good. The man is better than Aizen, sure, but he is also out for his own means, no matter how harmless they may seem on a larger scale.

[incandescens]

But Urahara bowed down and apologised to him! Clearly the guy is really decent and nice at heart. Honest.

[summer-queen.livejournal.com]

I love how everyone really assumes that Uarahara is 100% good.

Could just be that I have a fascination for Kurotsuchi, but I'm not going to trust anyone who was once in his position. Not one iota. Nope. ^_^

[incandescens]

Me neither. Nor do I think that Kurotsuchi corrupted 12th after coming into power. I have strong suspicions about him having inherited a Division that already had unhealthy attitudes about experimentation.

[west-side.livejournal.com]

In my cynical world it's more like:

"Let's plant Orihime in Aizen's hands and see what happens. BTW, Orihime, I'm so sorry, but it's time to start moving".

[incandescens]

I've also wondered about that one. He couldn't have done much more along the lines of hanging her out for bait, other than sticking a sign on her back saying PLZ KIDNAP ME.

[west-side.livejournal.com]

Heh... he cannot give those kids direct orders, even if he wanted to. They would just turn around and forget it immediately. Hence, manipulation all the way.
I'm so much in love with a very twisted good guy concept, I hope it gets even more twisted.

[incandescens]

Just to note that I wrote http://incandescens.livejournal.com/418871.html three months ago, and if it now turns out to be true, I shall be very smug indeed. :)

[west-side.livejournal.com]

Ohh... I wasn't into Bleach three months back, but as soon as I saw that 'go home, Orihime' scene, all my fur just stood up. Indeed.

Looking around and finding opinions like "Aizen wants some info from Orihime about SS" was a blow.

[incandescens]

Indeed. Aizen can do much better than that.

[himawari.livejournal.com]

Heh. I'm willing to believe for the moment that Urahara actually wants to help rescue Orihime (whether or not he deliberately let her get taken in the first place). But I totally buy the idea that he has other things to accomplish at the same time. He could have multiple reasons to go to Hueco Mundo and the boys will be a handy distraction while they're busy with the rescuing part.

And as for Orihime being left alive with Aizen...killing her is a sound Plan B.

[incandescens]

This is true; Urahara's just as complex a thinker as Aizen, after all, and I'm sure there are _lots_ of things he could get up to in HM.

(And it's not as if Orihime won't go to SS when she dies, after all. Nothing like knowing the afterlife exists to make you a bit more casual about collateral deaths.)

[himawari.livejournal.com]

(That's a very good point with some interesting possible implications. Heck, if she dies why not just find her in SS and give her a gigai. She'd practically be alive again...)

[incandescens]

Precisely. Barely even need to apologise. Heck, make a good enough gigai and she'd be functionally human . . .

(All of a sudden, the "making a gigai good enough to pass for human" seems to have more serious implications than it used to.)

[himawari.livejournal.com]

Mmm, yes.

("I'm sorry, Mr. Aizen, this is an excellent application and you seem very qualified. But I'm afraid the position of God has already been filled." XD)

[incandescens]

Dear Urahara,

Let's work together and share the throne of Heaven. (You can betray me later.)

Yours sincerely,

Aizen.