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Jul. 14th, 2004 02:03 am
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Interesting comparisons.

While rereading an old Chalet School book lately -- school story from about 30-40 years ago -- a character's sister is crippled (due to an accident) and the character is feeling rather sulky about all the attention that her sister gets, and the fact that she herself has been sent off to boarding school. One of the series' main characters has a Bracing Talk with her, makes her realise how fortunate she is to not be crippled as her sister is, and sends her off with a resolution to be more understanding, etc.

Compare Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, where the hero's brother is crippled in the real world, but able to run round in the fantasy world they're currently in. He doesn't want to go back to the real world, and says that back in the real world his brother had everything while he was just a cripple. The hero replies that he didn't have everything; that he always had to put all his interests to one side while his crippled brother got all the attention. Crippled brother admits that this is a strong argument, and apologises for _his_ selfishness. (Hero also believes that brother will still be able to walk when they return to the real world, to be fair.)

Interesting contrast. I'm considering what to make of it.

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You may come to think murder wrong because it is violent, and not because it is unjust. -- The Ball and the Cross, GK Chesterton

Date: 2004-07-14 01:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zamiel.livejournal.com
Frankly, that arc in FFTA really got under my skin. There's no real reason for the Protag to think Donal'll be able to walk back in the real world, and certainly won't have the Powers of the Arcane at his fingertips. For the matter, neither will Protag. In Ivalice, they're powerful pillars of society, admired and coveted, wielding mighty magics and strong blades. Back in St Ivalice, they're pretty pathetic kids.

In my mind, the decision's a no brainer. Stay and rule Ivalice with a cold, iron fist after crushing the annoying Mewt and Sid within my gauntlet of pain. But, hey, I'm just ... rational.

pants.. not safe..

Date: 2004-07-14 11:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joasakura.livejournal.com
:basil hides: "you have *got* to save me from those viera.. they say they don't need men to breed. It's a LIE! A LIE I TELL YOU!"

Re: pants.. not safe..

Date: 2004-07-14 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joasakura.livejournal.com
MARCHE: I just don't get it. Why does everyone look at me funny when I say I'm going to go polish my sword?

(sorry, i keep cracking up from "We have an armoury full of smackitties!")
:bwhahah:
(the image of Messara in bunny ears isn't helping much either. fortunately he's a Genki!Ninja)

Date: 2004-07-14 11:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] multiplexer.livejournal.com
*writes on a piece of paper*

Note to self: hire hordes of ninjas to take away [livejournal.com profile] incandescens's Game Boy SP for the good of mankind!

Date: 2004-07-14 06:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zamiel.livejournal.com
You call that an unhappy ending?

Date: 2004-07-14 08:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] copperbird.livejournal.com
Maybe the author of the chalet school stories had a (not-so) hidden agenda to teach young ladies how they were supposed to behave? (I mean, was the main character an author figure here? I never read those books :) )

One of the things I liked about FFTA is that they even had that conversation in the first place. It added an unexpected bit of depth to a fighty game! (Have you played any of the other final fantasy games, by the way? I think you'd love them.)

Date: 2004-07-14 11:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] multiplexer.livejournal.com
Whatever you do, don't play FFX-2!

It's mind-bogglingly horrible. Yet, I am committed to seeing the end by a force of will alone!

If you ever do get a PS2, FFX is an awesome game. It's just outright awesome. Sure, it's not the "worldwide Playstation seller" that FF7 was back in the day, but it's still just outright great. However, FFX-2 takes some really neat characters, and sucks the life right out of them with a suspicious slurping noise.

I heard some kind of rumour about a FF7 remake...

Date: 2004-07-14 12:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shiny-monkey.livejournal.com
Not a remake; it's a new game called "FFVII: Before Chaos" and takes place before the events of FFVII. As I understand it. And I leave LOTS of room for my own misunderstanding =D It seems to be very Turks-centric, which makes me happy.

FFX is good, but I'm a sprite-gamer, and I really don't care for the motion-capture video and real-life look of FFX and subsequent games. I want my cartoon games to look cartoony, darnit!

Date: 2004-07-14 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] multiplexer.livejournal.com
Bah. Give me Cloud and Sephiroth! I DEMAND CLONES! Although, granted, the Turks are pretty sweet.

I really loved FFX for the story -- and for Auron, the best character in any RPG ever.

Date: 2004-07-14 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shiny-monkey.livejournal.com
D'oh on my part -- it's "Before Crisis", not "Before Chaos". The logo features Reno and Erena in profile, back to back. I haven't translated the article (my Japanese is extremely bad) but it seems to be a network game (but not a MMORPG. Again the disclaimer that my word should not be taken as gospel as my reading in my own language tends to be erratic). I'm sure info will come out in English soon enough though ^^

Date: 2004-07-14 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] semioticity.livejournal.com
Actually, it's a cellphone-based game. Here (http://animenation.net/news/index.php?id=6577) is a news article about it, with a link to a preview. You do play as the Turks, though. :)

Date: 2004-07-14 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] semioticity.livejournal.com
For you, there is the upcoming film, Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children. Article here (http://animenation.net/news/index.php?id=6555). Cloud and Sephiroth, even.

Date: 2004-07-15 02:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shiny-monkey.livejournal.com
And amazing!Tifa. And Cid. And Vinnnnncent.... from whom, I should point out, Auron was pretty obviously cloned =D

Plus myriad pretty boys, sasuga Nippon.

Date: 2004-07-14 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] copperbird.livejournal.com
Granted, Auron is awesome. But Paine reminds me so much of my sister when she snaps at people.

Shame they never could get together ...

Date: 2004-07-14 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] multiplexer.livejournal.com
Actually, Paine is a very cool character, and I kind of groove on her dresspheres more than the dresspheres of the others. She has a bit more depth, and she gets all the good lines.

The Trainer outfit for Paine with the Falcon is very keen, although I was a little surprised when the Falcon just grabbed badguys off the field. It gets ridiculously powerful, and is a bit more interactive than the Dark Knight.

Date: 2004-07-14 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] multiplexer.livejournal.com
I missed Full Throttle earlier in the game because I suck. :<

FWIW

Date: 2004-07-14 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joasakura.livejournal.com
I rather enjoy FFX2 - played it through three times. I'll admit that it's not brain surgery or anything, but I find it to be a really fun game. And the really-good ending is really wonderful.

Re: FWIW

Date: 2004-07-15 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shiny-monkey.livejournal.com
That's what SuperHappy endings are for. To make it worth the Charlie's Angels-style posing =D

Re: FWIW

Date: 2004-07-15 02:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joasakura.livejournal.com
we always played charlie's angels when I was a kid - I always got stuck playing Sabrina. ;_;

Date: 2004-07-14 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] copperbird.livejournal.com
Hmm, FF7, now there's a thought.

Gen, I have a copy of Final Fantasy 7 (for the PC) still kicking around -- it's a bit long in the tooth as games go, but has a (deserved) reputation as one of the best in the series.

I am happy to send it to you on one condition. NO VINCENT VALENTINE FANFIC!! (Trust me, I am thinking only of you ;) )

ps. FF X-2 makes me laugh! I love the guy who is trying to put on a play so much :) And the stupid woman who makes you give her a massage. I think it just rocks totally, which isn't necessarily good, but gave me my money's worth for sure.

Date: 2004-07-14 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] multiplexer.livejournal.com
AUGH VINCENT VALENTINE FANFIC!!!

AUGH AUGH AUGH!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAUGH!

Now I must go light my head on fire to rid my mind of the image!

AUGH!

Date: 2004-07-15 06:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] copperbird.livejournal.com
I wouldn't be that cruel.

That old New York Times game

Date: 2004-07-15 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com
What she said: Gen, I have a copy of Final Fantasy 7.
What I thought: And yaoi, I have an eight-foot stack of Vincent uke djs.

And other moments of mental confusion.

Re: That old New York Times game

Date: 2004-07-15 07:51 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] solaas.livejournal.com
If you were called Leon, I'd worry about the lives of your enemies and your underage(?) pupil's moral guidance. ;)

Re: That old New York Times game

Date: 2004-07-15 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joasakura.livejournal.com
not that there's anything wrong with an eight foot stack of Vincent-uke dj. :laughs:

:hides her eight foot stack of xenogears doujin:

Re: That old New York Times game

Date: 2004-07-16 03:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com
Deep shelves. With the manga in front.

Date: 2004-07-14 12:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shiny-monkey.livejournal.com
Sounds very Japanese to me.

Date: 2004-07-14 01:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] archangelbeth
P'rhaps they're both right? Two sides to th' situation and all.

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